1 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:32,210 [Music] 2 00:00:43,369 --> 00:00:37,890 ok ladies and gentlemen today we have a 3 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:43,379 very unique guest he is gonna speak 4 00:00:47,029 --> 00:00:44,640 about something that I think is very 5 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:47,039 important for our culture to delve into 6 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:48,750 and this is just stuff I found out 7 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:53,370 speaking to him individually and he's 8 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:55,440 got an interesting background he's a got 9 00:01:00,799 --> 00:00:57,090 a background as a professional wrestler 10 00:01:04,060 --> 00:01:00,809 so without any further ado let's give 11 00:01:16,580 --> 00:01:04,070 him a call he'll introduce himself and 12 00:01:19,450 --> 00:01:16,590 we will get into our discussion hello 13 00:01:24,980 --> 00:01:19,460 hey Donny Oh 14 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:24,990 doing good doing good so I hope you're 15 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:27,390 in a comfortable position I'd like to 16 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:29,310 chat with you about you know some of the 17 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:31,530 things we've chatted about before and 18 00:01:38,569 --> 00:01:36,240 we're rolling here we're live and oh you 19 00:01:40,460 --> 00:01:38,579 know tell people a little bit about 20 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:40,470 yourself and then you know I just love 21 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:43,290 the topic the psychology of UFOs 22 00:01:50,780 --> 00:01:47,930 I started from professional wrestling in 23 00:01:54,109 --> 00:01:50,790 1990 I actually started training in 89 24 00:01:58,039 --> 00:01:54,119 when I was still in high school my last 25 00:02:00,889 --> 00:01:58,049 match was say 23 2011 and I pretty much 26 00:02:03,850 --> 00:02:00,899 retired from that basically able to do 27 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:03,860 it just don't wanna do it because in 28 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:08,489 2006 I got into research in USA heavily 29 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:11,670 because I was so intrigued with a 30 00:02:15,649 --> 00:02:13,930 documentary that I saw 31 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:15,659 and it was called the day after Roswell 32 00:02:21,390 --> 00:02:18,700 and if anyone's ever seen it I know 33 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:21,400 anything about that story it's about 34 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:25,510 what happened after the Roswell wreckage 35 00:02:30,149 --> 00:02:27,940 was collected and all of the things that 36 00:02:33,089 --> 00:02:30,159 was allegedly found now I say allegedly 37 00:02:35,309 --> 00:02:33,099 because of course in 1947 I wasn't there 38 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:35,319 but I was thinking now and it was 39 00:02:40,170 --> 00:02:38,260 sticking sticking with me that it's just 40 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,180 half of the things that repent of course 41 00:02:44,789 --> 00:02:42,640 since it was true then the reality of 42 00:02:48,599 --> 00:02:44,799 our world it's not what we think it is 43 00:02:52,770 --> 00:02:48,609 and I started reading any and everything 44 00:02:56,690 --> 00:02:52,780 to get my hands on and I'm really 45 00:03:02,610 --> 00:02:56,700 intrigued at the fact that the term UFO 46 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:02,620 very 20:19 so many people assume that 47 00:03:08,670 --> 00:03:05,920 that means alien and it's aggravating in 48 00:03:11,309 --> 00:03:08,680 a way but I think I can understand why 49 00:03:16,170 --> 00:03:11,319 they think that and it's based on the 50 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:16,180 fact that Hollywood presents that and if 51 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:20,440 Hollywood 10% something to the public in 52 00:03:26,069 --> 00:03:24,130 a certain way they will believe and and 53 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:26,079 that's one that's another way how you 54 00:03:30,030 --> 00:03:27,970 hide in tell you hide it up on the 55 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:30,040 silver screen and you're taught as a 56 00:03:33,930 --> 00:03:32,260 child oh it's just a movie you don't 57 00:03:39,629 --> 00:03:33,940 take it serious mm-hmm 58 00:03:42,930 --> 00:03:39,639 so that's got a lot to do with it the 59 00:03:46,229 --> 00:03:42,940 psychology of the word UFO in my opinion 60 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:46,239 I'm going on what people say what people 61 00:03:51,569 --> 00:03:49,480 say to me and messages or scuse me 62 00:03:54,390 --> 00:03:51,579 comments that I have seen to some of my 63 00:03:57,180 --> 00:03:54,400 facebook post well if I post and use the 64 00:04:01,050 --> 00:03:57,190 terms UFO somebody will comment and say 65 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:01,060 alien so that tells me that when people 66 00:04:09,539 --> 00:04:04,840 see that word they don't see the real 67 00:04:12,509 --> 00:04:09,549 story they in their mind it's processed 68 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:12,519 as okay this person saw this alien 69 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:15,010 spaceship unless the news report says 70 00:04:19,589 --> 00:04:17,310 that a person saw and explained right 71 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:19,599 then that's what they're saying because 72 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:22,390 they don't know the origin of them but 73 00:04:25,810 --> 00:04:24,490 society takes it to a whole nother 74 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:25,820 different area 75 00:04:33,060 --> 00:04:27,890 different aspect and that's that to 76 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:33,070 change because we live in it an age of 77 00:04:37,870 --> 00:04:35,450 advanced technologies I guess you would 78 00:04:40,210 --> 00:04:37,880 say you know everybody knows we have 79 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:40,220 area 51 that's out there in the desert 80 00:04:44,260 --> 00:04:42,560 and our military and our government are 81 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:44,270 doing things out there and it other 82 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:48,410 places so if they triangle flies over a 83 00:04:54,580 --> 00:04:51,620 city and someone sees it they 84 00:04:56,770 --> 00:04:54,590 automatically assume alien they don't 85 00:04:58,500 --> 00:04:56,780 think about the fact well it could be 86 00:05:01,240 --> 00:04:58,510 something that we don't know about yet 87 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:01,250 as far as the military especially the 88 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:03,830 Air Force they want to jump to the alien 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:05,210 conclusion because that's what they've 90 00:05:11,950 --> 00:05:09,410 been taught and I mean if you ask 91 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:11,960 anybody these days you know do you 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:13,730 believe in aliens they don't want to 93 00:05:17,140 --> 00:05:15,370 answer that question 94 00:05:19,990 --> 00:05:17,150 because they're afraid of what 95 00:05:22,840 --> 00:05:20,000 somebody's gonna think in this and 96 00:05:24,550 --> 00:05:22,850 that's fine that's no big deal but you 97 00:05:26,590 --> 00:05:24,560 shouldn't have people should not assume 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:26,600 one thing without having the facts and 99 00:05:31,810 --> 00:05:29,090 things don't you know in geology I don't 100 00:05:34,660 --> 00:05:31,820 believe everything I hear I investigate 101 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:34,670 and I asked other ufologist their 102 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:36,710 opinions on a certain sentence before I 103 00:05:42,130 --> 00:05:39,170 get to a point where I just say to 104 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:42,140 myself okay I better get to a point to 105 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:44,450 where I believe this may be going on and 106 00:05:50,340 --> 00:05:47,030 this may not and it's taken me 10 years 107 00:05:53,650 --> 00:05:50,350 to clean up to the conclusion that 108 00:05:55,870 --> 00:05:53,660 project horizon was probably a reality 109 00:05:58,660 --> 00:05:55,880 when you're on the moon before 69 and 110 00:06:03,010 --> 00:05:58,670 through the development of technology is 111 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:03,020 why we have the space force and I've 112 00:06:07,810 --> 00:06:05,210 told many people this the space force is 113 00:06:08,770 --> 00:06:07,820 disclosure on Kazakh solar warden but 114 00:06:17,310 --> 00:06:08,780 they're not going to tell the public 115 00:06:26,730 --> 00:06:21,460 that means we have come so far tech tech 116 00:06:30,910 --> 00:06:26,740 not technologically and there's so much 117 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:30,920 technology I feel that is buried in 118 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:34,010 black projects we may we may need never 119 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:37,520 say ok but I didn't have a unique story 120 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:38,720 for you and this is kind of 121 00:06:44,740 --> 00:06:41,530 controversial mm-hmm 122 00:06:47,619 --> 00:06:44,750 everyone is aware of the Betty and 123 00:06:51,219 --> 00:06:47,629 Barney Hill abduction yes they follow 124 00:06:53,050 --> 00:06:51,229 your college okay and I'm going to give 125 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:53,060 you the short version of this story 126 00:07:00,879 --> 00:06:55,610 Betty hill basically said in many 127 00:07:02,499 --> 00:07:00,889 interviews that she was Elena she was 128 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:02,509 laying on what she called a surgical 129 00:07:07,809 --> 00:07:05,599 table and she had explained how 130 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:07,819 something was inserted into her navel 131 00:07:13,149 --> 00:07:11,930 and extraction was done collect that's 132 00:07:17,620 --> 00:07:13,159 what she said 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:17,630 happened to her now this was in 1961 134 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:21,050 when this happened to her mr. Barney now 135 00:07:27,550 --> 00:07:25,250 I don't know if people know this but in 136 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:27,560 hospitals now there is something known 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:31,280 as robotic surgery I had a surgical 138 00:07:37,629 --> 00:07:34,370 procedure done in 2015 I had gallbladder 139 00:07:40,779 --> 00:07:37,639 surgery they did it by way of robotic 140 00:07:43,559 --> 00:07:40,789 surgery I was in the hospital the night 141 00:07:46,149 --> 00:07:43,569 before the surgeon came and explained 142 00:07:48,850 --> 00:07:46,159 how the surgical procedure were done 143 00:07:50,499 --> 00:07:48,860 with would go and he explained how they 144 00:07:52,450 --> 00:07:50,509 go in through the navel to do the 145 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:52,460 extraction a banging there passed out 146 00:07:58,659 --> 00:07:55,250 because I right good lord isn't exactly 147 00:08:02,170 --> 00:07:58,669 what happened to Betty here and I'm 148 00:08:05,019 --> 00:08:02,180 convinced because of that incident there 149 00:08:08,589 --> 00:08:05,029 that everything I've ever heard about 150 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:08,599 them meaning alien given us technology 151 00:08:15,339 --> 00:08:13,130 has got to be real because and I think 152 00:08:18,189 --> 00:08:15,349 it came from the Eisenhower treaty when 153 00:08:22,570 --> 00:08:18,199 he met no legs species and sitting in 154 00:08:25,719 --> 00:08:22,580 1958 I believe that's an example of that 155 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:25,729 treaty and because there's no way Betty 156 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:29,270 hill could just guess back in 1961 we 157 00:08:36,969 --> 00:08:32,690 didn't have that in 1961 but we have it 158 00:08:40,269 --> 00:08:36,979 now so I believe her Dustin was very 159 00:08:43,420 --> 00:08:40,279 real and I believe Eisenhower did have 160 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:43,430 two very special meetings with alien 161 00:08:49,420 --> 00:08:46,430 beings at Holloman Air one at the 162 00:08:51,010 --> 00:08:49,430 Pentagon the story of valiant Thor now 163 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:51,020 that does not mean 164 00:08:55,540 --> 00:08:53,600 every time somebody sees a UFO lately 165 00:08:57,820 --> 00:08:55,550 doesn't mean that the turns you're 166 00:09:02,769 --> 00:08:57,830 serving the term a limit to different 167 00:09:05,019 --> 00:09:02,779 sex altogether but they're serious the 168 00:09:08,170 --> 00:09:05,029 serious thing about this is like when 169 00:09:10,570 --> 00:09:08,180 someone sees something in the sky they 170 00:09:14,139 --> 00:09:10,580 don't understand I've had clients tell 171 00:09:17,199 --> 00:09:14,149 me that it scared them now let's think 172 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:17,209 about this something flies over a town 173 00:09:23,139 --> 00:09:19,970 someone sees it and gets scared that's 174 00:09:25,810 --> 00:09:23,149 not anything but laugh at it's really 175 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:25,820 really not because people fear what they 176 00:09:33,220 --> 00:09:30,770 don't understand they end the fact that 177 00:09:36,220 --> 00:09:33,230 unknowns are flying over if it's black 178 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:36,230 projects maybe they shouldn't do it as 179 00:09:41,710 --> 00:09:39,830 much this that's what it is you know 180 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:41,720 because it's this is more than just 181 00:09:47,050 --> 00:09:44,630 working at something and not knowing 182 00:09:50,019 --> 00:09:47,060 what you're working at or not or 183 00:09:52,030 --> 00:09:50,029 assuming alien a lot of people will do 184 00:09:54,910 --> 00:09:52,040 that so they wouldn't have to think 185 00:09:57,940 --> 00:09:54,920 about it out of sight out of mind 186 00:09:59,920 --> 00:09:57,950 and it is like Lois Elizondo you know 187 00:10:02,260 --> 00:09:59,930 are we gonna stick our heads in the 188 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:02,270 ground and not worry about this or are 189 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:04,490 we gonna look up and see if we can 190 00:10:07,870 --> 00:10:05,930 figure out what the world's going on 191 00:10:11,380 --> 00:10:07,880 he's right I agree with that statement 192 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:11,390 but I mean I've thought that for years I 193 00:10:15,579 --> 00:10:13,730 know you've got a question for me I 194 00:10:17,290 --> 00:10:15,589 don't mean you keep going on I don't 195 00:10:19,660 --> 00:10:17,300 like it no I like where you're going 196 00:10:21,579 --> 00:10:19,670 with the you know our culture you know 197 00:10:24,550 --> 00:10:21,589 letting ourselves be manipulated by 198 00:10:29,970 --> 00:10:24,560 Hollywood you know filling in all those 199 00:10:32,050 --> 00:10:29,980 blanks when we do see this either 200 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:32,060 whatever you want to call it 201 00:10:35,860 --> 00:10:34,250 unidentified aerial phenomena people 202 00:10:39,490 --> 00:10:35,870 don't like to deal with the processing 203 00:10:41,380 --> 00:10:39,500 or seeing of that and as far as the I 204 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:41,390 loved what you said about the Eisenhower 205 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:44,930 thing I recently had an opportunity to 206 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:48,800 go to a dinner at dinner party at Laura 207 00:10:51,819 --> 00:10:50,570 Eisenhower's and I had to bow out I 208 00:10:55,410 --> 00:10:51,829 couldn't make it because of some 209 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:55,420 scheduling stuff but I think that yes 210 00:11:00,819 --> 00:10:58,130 there's some practices especially with 211 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:00,829 surgery and mimicking what would be 212 00:11:04,660 --> 00:11:02,450 otherwise considered alien tech 213 00:11:08,110 --> 00:11:04,670 g'bye the masses but very careful with 214 00:11:09,970 --> 00:11:08,120 that word alien but maybe only me you 215 00:11:11,830 --> 00:11:09,980 know like you said that surgery you had 216 00:11:14,290 --> 00:11:11,840 this is this is stuff that could have 217 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:14,300 come from the Eisenhower treaty and I 218 00:11:21,340 --> 00:11:16,850 love that you mentioned the day after 219 00:11:23,740 --> 00:11:21,350 Roswell and have a that is you know 220 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:23,750 brings in things like the Eisenhower 221 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:27,920 treaty and project horizon 222 00:11:32,140 --> 00:11:30,320 you know advanced technology area 51 do 223 00:11:35,050 --> 00:11:32,150 I believe yes do I believe that there's 224 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:35,060 something else yes and I mean project 225 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:37,310 horizon disclosure on solar warden can 226 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:40,970 can we get more into that info um 227 00:11:48,940 --> 00:11:45,890 basically the with the solar awarded 228 00:11:52,650 --> 00:11:48,950 situation as you know there has been 229 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:52,660 many people that have come forward and 230 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:55,730 said yes I was a part of project so 231 00:12:00,880 --> 00:11:58,250 rewarding I've done this I've done that 232 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:00,890 I've been to Mars we have a secret space 233 00:12:09,390 --> 00:12:06,290 fleet after Gary McKinnon was arrested 234 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:09,400 for hacking into that NASA database I 235 00:12:17,290 --> 00:12:13,730 find it awfully odd awfully awfully odd 236 00:12:20,350 --> 00:12:17,300 that if mr. McKinnon hacked into a 237 00:12:22,180 --> 00:12:20,360 government computer database which he 238 00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:22,190 did because he admitted doing it because 239 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:26,390 he was arrest in England why would the 240 00:12:33,370 --> 00:12:29,300 United States government drop the 241 00:12:36,370 --> 00:12:33,380 charges against him because he I mean 242 00:12:39,010 --> 00:12:36,380 come on he hacked a computer database 243 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:39,020 and some information he wasn't supposed 244 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:41,990 to okay it's against the law okay why 245 00:12:48,130 --> 00:12:45,530 didn't they prosecute my theory is they 246 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:48,140 knew if they prosecuted mr. Mackenna 247 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:51,050 every single thing he's saying would 248 00:12:55,180 --> 00:12:53,390 have to would come out as evidence in a 249 00:12:58,690 --> 00:12:55,190 court case that's the one thing you 250 00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:58,700 don't want so what do you do to drop the 251 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:00,800 charges and then you try to discredit 252 00:13:08,350 --> 00:13:04,250 him and deny all of these things that he 253 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:08,360 found such as the United States secret 254 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:12,220 spaceships and non-terrestrial officers 255 00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:13,930 discredit 256 00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:17,320 okay then unis amazing since that 257 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:19,600 happened how so many people have never 258 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:23,730 heard of the term secret space program 259 00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:25,990 you know I'm telling Pete I tell people 260 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:26,710 all the time 261 00:13:32,490 --> 00:13:29,890 um I said this space forces disclosure 262 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:32,500 on something we already know because of 263 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:35,890 Gary McKinnon but you know you disclose 264 00:13:39,870 --> 00:13:37,570 it so many years down the road that 265 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:39,880 nobody could still into that when I 266 00:13:43,950 --> 00:13:42,010 first heard president company just space 267 00:13:45,390 --> 00:13:43,960 for a bang there fell on the floor I 268 00:13:50,610 --> 00:13:45,400 like world they're gonna disclose it 269 00:13:53,490 --> 00:13:50,620 mm-hmm it was crazy and my thing is this 270 00:13:56,010 --> 00:13:53,500 if they're gonna disclose project solar 271 00:13:58,860 --> 00:13:56,020 warden and call it the United States 272 00:14:01,830 --> 00:13:58,870 space force what else do they have on 273 00:14:05,250 --> 00:14:01,840 deck because my theory is when something 274 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:05,260 is disclosed or declassified you've 275 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:07,690 always got something on deck it's kind 276 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:10,240 of like your x-ray or you extra Joker if 277 00:14:17,780 --> 00:14:13,690 you will oh yeah well that information 278 00:14:19,410 --> 00:14:17,790 is no longer cutting edge or necessary 279 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:19,420 exactly yes sir 280 00:14:24,390 --> 00:14:22,840 now my I don't know if this is true I'm 281 00:14:27,510 --> 00:14:24,400 going on what I was told 282 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:27,520 my understanding okay when I'm is that 283 00:14:33,210 --> 00:14:30,490 clear is that allegedly we had stealth 284 00:14:37,230 --> 00:14:33,220 technology in the same I do not know if 285 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:37,240 that's true okay but if we did yes we 286 00:14:43,050 --> 00:14:40,000 did a lot of us those same in the 287 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:43,060 sentence and they these bit of itself if 288 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:46,270 we did I honestly don't know if we did 289 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:49,510 but it seems like we probably could have 290 00:14:55,740 --> 00:14:52,240 but that's a guess it's a gift and a 291 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:55,750 theory because all of the information 292 00:15:01,770 --> 00:14:58,000 about these triangles that have been 293 00:15:03,660 --> 00:15:01,780 seen and people coming forward and 294 00:15:05,220 --> 00:15:03,670 saying oh that's a that's when the TR 295 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:05,230 program or whatnot 296 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:08,260 I had a we had a triangle fly over my 297 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:11,410 hometown of Grove town and a gentleman 298 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:12,850 sent me a picture of it was at a 299 00:15:17,580 --> 00:15:15,610 football game he said also I know you're 300 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:17,590 into this what is this and as soon as I 301 00:15:21,810 --> 00:15:19,690 looked at it I said well they Messick 302 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:21,820 tr-3b what thing else is known over 303 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:25,330 Grove town you know and I'm thinking to 304 00:15:27,790 --> 00:15:26,320 myself okay 305 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:27,800 why anyway I told him what I thought 306 00:15:34,030 --> 00:15:31,120 was I was on the local news about it and 307 00:15:35,949 --> 00:15:34,040 that's pretty much it you know but I 308 00:15:38,259 --> 00:15:35,959 told him I said it's part of what we 309 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:38,269 what is called project solar warden and 310 00:15:43,540 --> 00:15:41,300 my theory is that it's an advanced 311 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:43,550 aircraft that's probably a step up from 312 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:45,920 what we have now what yourself I said I 313 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:49,730 mean I don't know what it can do but my 314 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:52,070 I would imagine because the witness did 315 00:15:57,850 --> 00:15:54,800 say it was barely moving so that makes 316 00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:57,860 me think the antigravity technology and 317 00:16:03,699 --> 00:15:59,839 he said it was silent you know you cook 318 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:03,709 those you know that being said a lot 319 00:16:08,829 --> 00:16:06,410 about a UFO sighting no it was flying 320 00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:08,839 low or slow and it was fine you know 321 00:16:13,810 --> 00:16:11,839 that kind of thing um I don't know if 322 00:16:18,910 --> 00:16:13,820 you have ever heard of something known 323 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:18,920 as a tea or six pellets I put that 324 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:21,890 particular air and spacecraft with the 325 00:16:31,449 --> 00:16:26,089 tr-3b now if we all remember the Phoenix 326 00:16:36,130 --> 00:16:31,459 like states 1997 there was actually two 327 00:16:39,550 --> 00:16:36,140 events on the same day one earlier in 328 00:16:42,670 --> 00:16:39,560 the evening there was a huge boomerang 329 00:16:46,090 --> 00:16:42,680 shaped craft that flew over Phoenix it 330 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:46,100 was allegedly seen in Henderson Nevada 331 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:50,450 search window things then this from past 332 00:16:56,650 --> 00:16:54,410 history went down for Phoenix now I am 333 00:16:59,860 --> 00:16:56,660 theorizing that that was not alien it 334 00:17:02,740 --> 00:16:59,870 was a TR six hours which is a huge boom 335 00:17:05,230 --> 00:17:02,750 line which is a part of solar warden I'm 336 00:17:07,809 --> 00:17:05,240 guessing that I'm sterilizing that okay 337 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:07,819 I wasn't there I didn't see it but based 338 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:10,040 on the description the pr6 339 00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:15,410 is is it is just like with the way 340 00:17:21,939 --> 00:17:19,790 family described so I'm thinking okay 341 00:17:24,250 --> 00:17:21,949 that's possible it's extremely possible 342 00:17:26,679 --> 00:17:24,260 and I'm serializing that that's what it 343 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:26,689 was and you know you think well why 344 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:28,250 don't they do this while ethics flight 345 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:31,850 instinct to drummer UFO reports because 346 00:17:37,090 --> 00:17:34,370 society that hears about it people in 347 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:37,100 society but nothing ailing and really 348 00:17:41,410 --> 00:17:39,650 it's the air force it ain't nothing 349 00:17:44,350 --> 00:17:41,420 about it you know the time 350 00:17:46,930 --> 00:17:44,360 around but with the technology that 351 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:46,940 technology aboard the TRC and that you 352 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:50,330 are privy could be from back engineer a 353 00:17:55,180 --> 00:17:52,520 Jungian technology but those actual 354 00:17:57,220 --> 00:17:55,190 crack roundup you know it's not from 355 00:17:59,620 --> 00:17:57,230 another world but when people don't 356 00:18:03,310 --> 00:17:59,630 understand what they're looking at it 357 00:18:04,930 --> 00:18:03,320 will sink otherworldly to there but not 358 00:18:09,670 --> 00:18:04,940 legitimately from some other 359 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:09,680 civilization yeah it's it's such a high 360 00:18:16,510 --> 00:18:12,530 technology that it's otherwise seen as 361 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:16,520 magic because and and I agree with you a 362 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:19,330 hundred percent that we're talking about 363 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:24,110 very likely with the tr6 and the tr-3b I 364 00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:27,710 mean that's a new generation possibly of 365 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:31,670 like these old reverse engineered things 366 00:18:37,660 --> 00:18:34,490 like the rods in the Roswell incident 367 00:18:40,930 --> 00:18:37,670 it's a possibility that and my late 368 00:18:43,450 --> 00:18:40,940 father-in-law who swore up and down he 369 00:18:46,540 --> 00:18:43,460 just recently passed and he him and my 370 00:18:48,970 --> 00:18:46,550 wife and a bunch of other people swore 371 00:18:51,790 --> 00:18:48,980 up and down that they saw one of these 372 00:18:53,740 --> 00:18:51,800 huge triangles when they were living in 373 00:18:55,060 --> 00:18:53,750 Oregon that just literally they were you 374 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:55,070 know sitting out in their hot tub 375 00:19:01,060 --> 00:18:57,050 outside the family home the whole family 376 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:01,070 and here came this huge triangle that in 377 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:04,310 their words blacked out the sky you know 378 00:19:09,610 --> 00:19:07,010 it was yeah yeah a lot of these lot of 379 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:09,620 these triangles that the Air Force has 380 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:11,870 that are in the TDR program we stained a 381 00:19:18,820 --> 00:19:16,910 black metal so willing to lay family 382 00:19:21,460 --> 00:19:18,830 mentioned about the fact that it flew 383 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:21,470 over and it blacked out the stars they 384 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:23,270 were looking at a clamp that was black 385 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:25,970 metal with the lights on it which is the 386 00:19:32,260 --> 00:19:28,640 spitting image of the tr6 based on where 387 00:19:34,900 --> 00:19:32,270 we know about this alleged existence let 388 00:19:37,780 --> 00:19:34,910 me makes me birthday quickly there 389 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:37,790 because it's still not official but 390 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:41,210 that's what the late family said that 391 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:44,150 they saw fly over their home okay 392 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:46,130 I mean I've listened to their testimony 393 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:48,710 on documentaries okay I think they're 394 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:50,930 telling the truth okay because I don't 395 00:19:55,069 --> 00:19:53,660 see why they would lie and I study 396 00:19:59,099 --> 00:19:55,079 people how 397 00:20:01,079 --> 00:19:59,109 they tell a story once I learned about a 398 00:20:03,479 --> 00:20:01,089 story I'll go back and watch the 399 00:20:07,259 --> 00:20:03,489 people's body language and see if I can 400 00:20:09,659 --> 00:20:07,269 pick up on any weird body language that 401 00:20:12,209 --> 00:20:09,669 would make them think their line and the 402 00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:12,219 lay family from the documentary I know 403 00:20:15,209 --> 00:20:12,940 what I saw 404 00:20:16,859 --> 00:20:15,219 I believed them and there wasn't the 405 00:20:19,139 --> 00:20:16,869 only personal witness witness that 406 00:20:24,749 --> 00:20:19,149 I've Simonton the governor at the time 407 00:20:26,849 --> 00:20:24,759 he said he saw okay so I mean granted he 408 00:20:29,849 --> 00:20:26,859 admitted that later on after the fact 409 00:20:33,239 --> 00:20:29,859 that he says he saw the type mm-hmm but 410 00:20:35,549 --> 00:20:33,249 the actual Phoenix lights that the video 411 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:35,559 that we have all seen that's a totally 412 00:20:40,109 --> 00:20:37,690 separate thing than this boomerang 413 00:20:42,209 --> 00:20:40,119 correct a lot of folks think it was the 414 00:20:47,609 --> 00:20:42,219 same event and it's not they just had 415 00:20:49,349 --> 00:20:47,619 two events on the same needle um and I 416 00:20:53,099 --> 00:20:49,359 have to agree with you on the triangle 417 00:20:55,439 --> 00:20:53,109 craft both the tr-3b and the tr6 the 418 00:20:58,619 --> 00:20:55,449 newer generations I mean this in my 419 00:21:01,259 --> 00:20:58,629 opinion is unquestionably our technology 420 00:21:03,989 --> 00:21:01,269 because of there's so many things so 421 00:21:06,389 --> 00:21:03,999 many telltale signs there's then the 422 00:21:08,489 --> 00:21:06,399 occult has a has a part in it the 423 00:21:11,249 --> 00:21:08,499 triangle itself you know I think human 424 00:21:13,229 --> 00:21:11,259 lead to make it better you know we got 425 00:21:16,019 --> 00:21:13,239 tidbits that we were actually able to 426 00:21:18,809 --> 00:21:16,029 take and make better but we didn't 427 00:21:21,299 --> 00:21:18,819 gather how the entire craft worked as a 428 00:21:24,299 --> 00:21:21,309 whole reverse-engineer wise however we 429 00:21:25,859 --> 00:21:24,309 got it to fly mm-hm and then we took 430 00:21:27,719 --> 00:21:25,869 with it's just what I've heard but I 431 00:21:29,249 --> 00:21:27,729 think I think yeah I mean people that 432 00:21:31,469 --> 00:21:29,259 don't believe this look at the mild 433 00:21:33,479 --> 00:21:31,479 reverse engineering and the b-2 bomber 434 00:21:36,539 --> 00:21:33,489 the stuff bomber out in Tonopah and 435 00:21:41,729 --> 00:21:36,549 we're talking these were considered UFOs 436 00:21:43,109 --> 00:21:41,739 at the time like you said you know you 437 00:21:46,579 --> 00:21:43,119 know we're talking about back 438 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:46,589 engineering and reverse engineering and 439 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:51,129 several people bob lazar John Lear other 440 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:53,289 people have said I don't that that's 441 00:21:58,049 --> 00:21:55,329 what the military is doing I believe 442 00:21:59,879 --> 00:21:58,059 that but there's one key thing here and 443 00:22:04,079 --> 00:21:59,889 holy crap and this goes back to 444 00:22:05,969 --> 00:22:04,089 Eisenhower god bless that man yes we are 445 00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:05,979 actually back engineering alien 446 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:07,500 technology now let's back up 447 00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:09,330 this logically Brian let's say phew an 448 00:22:14,810 --> 00:22:12,900 hour out there let's say and an event 449 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:14,820 and let's say you call somewhere someone 450 00:22:21,620 --> 00:22:17,970 else southwester know it's a clash we 451 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:21,630 will be soon we went to what I said we 452 00:22:28,279 --> 00:22:26,730 will be soon yeah let's say if you and I 453 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:28,289 were in the military and we were 454 00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:30,960 dispatched to go investigate this we get 455 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:33,780 out there and we say that it's something 456 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:35,580 that doesn't belong to us and we can 457 00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:40,200 honestly see it's futuristic okay it's 458 00:22:46,460 --> 00:22:42,600 this technology that's way off ahead of 459 00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:46,470 what our military can do we know it's 460 00:22:52,399 --> 00:22:49,320 not ours okay what do you do with it 461 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:52,409 well obviously you're gonna see what you 462 00:23:00,110 --> 00:22:55,490 can do with that for a possible military 463 00:23:02,919 --> 00:23:00,120 advancement but if a technology is so 464 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:02,929 many years ahead of what we're used to 465 00:23:08,750 --> 00:23:05,340 we're not going to know what the hell're 466 00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:08,760 is and how counter back engineer in my 467 00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:12,960 opinion okay the only way that we can 468 00:23:19,970 --> 00:23:15,710 back engineer in Spain is we've got to 469 00:23:23,539 --> 00:23:19,980 understand what we're looking at and if 470 00:23:27,049 --> 00:23:23,549 if it's so many years in the future say 471 00:23:29,149 --> 00:23:27,059 fifty or a hundred years the only way we 472 00:23:32,049 --> 00:23:29,159 can do anything with that is the owners 473 00:23:38,270 --> 00:23:32,059 of that technology has to teach us what 474 00:23:42,820 --> 00:23:38,280 it is and how it works now this goes 475 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:42,830 back to making the Eisenhower treaty and 476 00:23:51,860 --> 00:23:47,400 them giving us technology but they also 477 00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:51,870 have to teach us how to use it and then 478 00:23:57,649 --> 00:23:55,320 once they do that boom we can create 479 00:23:59,690 --> 00:23:57,659 things like the P or 3 into T or 6 and 480 00:24:01,880 --> 00:23:59,700 what have you I mean we got direct 481 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:01,890 energy weapons now there's still people 482 00:24:08,659 --> 00:24:05,490 don't believe that but we did and that's 483 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:08,669 part of I mean if we're back engineering 484 00:24:14,299 --> 00:24:10,710 anything then it kind of adds 485 00:24:16,669 --> 00:24:14,309 credibility to the story of they're here 486 00:24:21,090 --> 00:24:16,679 and they're helping us cuz they're 487 00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:24,960 I was terrible in school in math and 488 00:24:29,159 --> 00:24:27,279 let's say for example you are the 489 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:29,169 valedictorian of the high school and I 490 00:24:34,019 --> 00:24:31,929 can barely add two plus two but somebody 491 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:34,029 wants me to do calculus I got to go find 492 00:24:39,389 --> 00:24:36,820 somebody that I'm changed so so I called 493 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,399 my buddy Ryan you tell me what's going 494 00:24:44,340 --> 00:24:41,200 on and if I can't figure it out then I 495 00:24:47,009 --> 00:24:44,350 can't work with it so what's going to 496 00:24:49,999 --> 00:24:47,019 happen is you're going to have to catch 497 00:24:52,740 --> 00:24:50,009 me up to that level of mathematics 498 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:52,750 correct then I if I meet that they meet 499 00:24:57,629 --> 00:24:55,570 in the middle time now I believe Bob 500 00:25:02,700 --> 00:24:57,639 Lazar story I'm going record and say I 501 00:25:05,249 --> 00:25:02,710 believe the man's story and quite simply 502 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:05,259 because he was talking about the element 503 00:25:10,649 --> 00:25:08,350 115 in the 80s and everyone said there's 504 00:25:11,999 --> 00:25:10,659 no way that could be but now scientific 505 00:25:15,769 --> 00:25:12,009 me saying oh yeah 506 00:25:20,610 --> 00:25:15,779 oh no 150 yep but Bob said it first 507 00:25:21,899 --> 00:25:20,620 right okay I believe his story I do not 508 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:21,909 believe he is some type of 509 00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:23,710 disinformation agent 510 00:25:32,419 --> 00:25:27,940 I believe he worked out at s4 he saw 511 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:32,429 what he saw and it's kind of funny that 512 00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:35,289 the way he looked at it was well the 513 00:25:40,769 --> 00:25:37,870 people needed to know this the last 514 00:25:42,659 --> 00:25:40,779 person that said that James Forrestal 515 00:25:47,009 --> 00:25:42,669 things didn't really work out too well 516 00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:47,019 huh not good I mean so James Forrestal 517 00:25:53,549 --> 00:25:49,960 in my opinion did not kill himself James 518 00:25:55,830 --> 00:25:53,559 Forrestal was thrown out of that temple 519 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:55,840 thank you potential is up he was thrown 520 00:26:00,539 --> 00:25:58,090 out of that high-rise window but there's 521 00:26:03,659 --> 00:26:00,549 another gentleman that died the same way 522 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:03,669 his name was dr. Frank Olson he was the 523 00:26:10,860 --> 00:26:07,210 he was a leader of the nko surprise 524 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:10,870 that's right Wow they bad the same way 525 00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:12,610 because they both wanted to tell people 526 00:26:16,529 --> 00:26:15,220 about what was going on I think those 527 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:16,539 are accidents that's just my opinion 528 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:21,250 they've done wrong but you're preaching 529 00:26:25,619 --> 00:26:23,110 to the corium constant I believe I 530 00:26:28,049 --> 00:26:25,629 believe bob lazar story very much you 531 00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:28,059 know and I'm not going to say the 532 00:26:33,419 --> 00:26:30,159 person's name because I don't know if it 533 00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:33,429 but if I say their name on the show but 534 00:26:35,989 --> 00:26:34,169 assert the 535 00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:35,999 and told me that there was not the kind 536 00:26:40,489 --> 00:26:37,769 of time that bad that he won here the 537 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:40,499 time he thought it was crazy until we 538 00:26:50,749 --> 00:26:45,809 started to work at area 51 and s4 so 539 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:50,759 evidently Bob saw something thank you 540 00:26:59,869 --> 00:26:53,580 right okay this was out there you know 541 00:27:02,180 --> 00:26:59,879 believe it or not you know but it's it's 542 00:27:06,229 --> 00:27:02,190 it's a similar I mean yeah I want to get 543 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:06,239 into you know these this stuff like out 544 00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:09,570 at s4 and that you see area 51 papoose 545 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,340 Lake and I mean this is all stuff that 546 00:27:15,889 --> 00:27:13,200 let's get back to James Forrestal that 547 00:27:18,919 --> 00:27:15,899 he was very involved with he was with 548 00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:18,929 her and and talking about Jimmy 549 00:27:22,489 --> 00:27:20,940 Forrestal and I hate to say it like that 550 00:27:27,950 --> 00:27:22,499 because sometimes people comment on 551 00:27:30,190 --> 00:27:27,960 documentaries which is unique he was no 552 00:27:33,769 --> 00:27:30,200 let me say this image over its correctly 553 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:33,779 and respectfully he was allegedly a part 554 00:27:38,629 --> 00:27:36,330 of mj-12 no I say allegedly cuz I was 555 00:27:41,149 --> 00:27:38,639 not there in those days but I believe in 556 00:27:42,259 --> 00:27:41,159 k-12 was a real group so that's why I'm 557 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:42,269 boarding it like that 558 00:27:50,029 --> 00:27:46,289 so mj-12 is is there to monitor and 559 00:27:53,450 --> 00:27:50,039 manage of alien tech and the UFO crash 560 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,460 retrieval debris okay well if this force 561 00:27:59,810 --> 00:27:56,159 all saw that he felt like the public 562 00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,820 needed that no something in those days 563 00:28:03,529 --> 00:28:01,200 they didn't really know what's in the 564 00:28:07,009 --> 00:28:03,539 world they were dealing with so they had 565 00:28:08,899 --> 00:28:07,019 to be extra cautious I don't believe 566 00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,909 that I would ever kill somebody I would 567 00:28:13,729 --> 00:28:11,279 come up with some other way to keeping 568 00:28:18,259 --> 00:28:13,739 quiet but that's what they chose to do 569 00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:18,269 you know so and I can't miss you James 570 00:28:24,979 --> 00:28:20,840 Forster without mentioned John F Kennedy 571 00:28:26,419 --> 00:28:24,989 President Kennedy and most people feel 572 00:28:29,539 --> 00:28:26,429 like President Kennedy was assassinated 573 00:28:31,369 --> 00:28:29,549 because of his political views and he 574 00:28:33,049 --> 00:28:31,379 didn't invade Cuba in all the things 575 00:28:35,899 --> 00:28:33,059 like that but you can read about any 576 00:28:39,710 --> 00:28:35,909 history books but I know what one other 577 00:28:41,629 --> 00:28:39,720 person in ethology that agrees with me 578 00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:41,639 cuz she has said she has agreed with me 579 00:28:46,239 --> 00:28:44,129 Linda Moulton Howe I have a lot of 580 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,249 respect for that young lady 581 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:47,840 inject well 582 00:28:56,750 --> 00:28:50,610 has a document that is referring to 583 00:28:59,440 --> 00:28:56,760 Lancer LAN CPR now Lancer was President 584 00:29:02,120 --> 00:28:59,450 Kennedy's Secret Service pregnant and 585 00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:02,130 this dark and I've got the documents if 586 00:29:06,740 --> 00:29:04,230 somebody he emailed me I'll forward it 587 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:06,750 to him if the document is an integer of 588 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:09,900 document and I don't have economy but 589 00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:12,510 it's basically the way it's worded it's 590 00:29:20,270 --> 00:29:16,380 giving the order or the okay to kill 591 00:29:23,330 --> 00:29:20,280 President John F Kennedy because on 592 00:29:26,380 --> 00:29:23,340 November the twelve he requested UFO 593 00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:26,390 into I've got that letter as well and 594 00:29:33,290 --> 00:29:29,040 then like I say ten days later he's 595 00:29:36,380 --> 00:29:33,300 assassinated and now now that's been 596 00:29:38,030 --> 00:29:36,390 chilling because when you read those 597 00:29:40,990 --> 00:29:38,040 documents enough god I mean I'm happy to 598 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:41,000 share me whoever you know contact me 599 00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:45,930 Douglass caddy mentioned a dinner that 600 00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:49,320 he had with E Howard hunt tell you 601 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:50,940 everybody probably heard of a Howard 602 00:29:56,330 --> 00:29:52,890 hunt he was one of the Watergate work 603 00:29:58,790 --> 00:29:56,340 burglars excuse me Deborah Scotty had 604 00:30:02,690 --> 00:29:58,800 dinner with Mr Hunt the evening before 605 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:02,700 he had to report to prison and mr. caddy 606 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:06,930 this is mr. caddies works he asked why 607 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:08,850 was President Kennedy killed and 608 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:13,830 according to what mr. caddy has said he 609 00:30:18,020 --> 00:30:16,110 was killed because it was believed he 610 00:30:21,580 --> 00:30:18,030 was going to give our most vital secret 611 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:21,590 to the Russians and he Howard hunt said 612 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:25,890 the alien existence on this planet now 613 00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:28,610 is that true or is that not true I 614 00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:31,260 believe that probably that conversation 615 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:32,940 did happen between because of those 616 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:33,600 documents 617 00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:35,970 I believe it's theoretically possible 618 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:39,270 any more than likely yes what calls the 619 00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:43,170 assessments but that's just a theory you 620 00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,670 know there's no way to open that we 621 00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:46,320 really really know but so we can't 622 00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:48,750 really discredit or Gaeta 623 00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:50,760 we are absolutely right with the 624 00:30:55,460 --> 00:30:53,310 ketamine assassination and and then also 625 00:30:57,770 --> 00:30:55,470 the assassination of his brother I mean 626 00:31:00,500 --> 00:30:57,780 there's there's the Kennedys have always 627 00:31:01,130 --> 00:31:00,510 kind of been you know the family that is 628 00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:01,140 triangle 629 00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:02,670 though they are an elite family they're 630 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:05,100 always trying to more or less balance 631 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:06,000 the scales 632 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:09,690 or make things even let's take that 633 00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:11,280 center path and it almost seems like 634 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:12,960 even with you know the quote-unquote 635 00:31:20,350 --> 00:31:16,880 Kennedy curse you know there's an occult 636 00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:20,360 aspect to this you know John F Kennedy 637 00:31:26,539 --> 00:31:23,220 publicly scrutinized secret societies 638 00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:26,549 and well I and I wanted to get to like a 639 00:31:31,970 --> 00:31:29,340 lot of the intellectuals have kind of 640 00:31:34,130 --> 00:31:31,980 reclosed their original ideas as a 641 00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:34,140 secret society and a lot of this 642 00:31:39,409 --> 00:31:37,140 phraseology and they've used some of the 643 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:39,419 key symbolisms like the triangle and the 644 00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,850 you know the secrecy that they're 645 00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:43,760 swearing because a lot of these groups 646 00:31:49,010 --> 00:31:46,500 yet you wonder if the president even 647 00:31:52,340 --> 00:31:49,020 gets debriefed I don't think he does and 648 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:52,350 a president in my opinion based on what 649 00:31:57,950 --> 00:31:56,490 I President Eisenhower said that exists 650 00:32:00,380 --> 00:31:57,960 speech I guess is what you want to call 651 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:00,390 it he was basically telling the country 652 00:32:07,060 --> 00:32:02,010 the president doesn't have the power 653 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:10,760 the story goes story goes okay 654 00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:14,370 the president quarter said that he saw a 655 00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:17,340 UFO while camping he said he would 656 00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:19,140 really sure for doctrine okay 657 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:22,230 the story goes that when President 658 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:26,250 Carter was elected he had a meeting with 659 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:29,010 it was either the director or the deputy 660 00:32:35,710 --> 00:32:31,650 director of CIA it was one of those two 661 00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:35,720 gentlemen and he basically requested UFO 662 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:38,100 material and what was said to him was 663 00:32:45,850 --> 00:32:41,160 it's a neat enough okay now here is the 664 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:45,860 unique thing about that allegedly if 665 00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:49,620 President Carter was seen sitting at his 666 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:52,919 desk the door to the Oval Office was 667 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:55,410 open and allegedly he was sitting there 668 00:33:00,530 --> 00:32:58,650 had tears running down his I don't know 669 00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:00,540 what told a man we'll probably never 670 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:03,750 know but I am theorizing it's one of 671 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:06,690 those things like leave it alone and 672 00:33:12,530 --> 00:33:07,890 everything will be fine 673 00:33:14,370 --> 00:33:12,540 and I think she caught the hint and I'm 674 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:14,380 referring to the plenteous 675 00:33:18,810 --> 00:33:16,510 well that's what I think that's what I 676 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:18,820 think as a freak thank you every day a 677 00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:20,650 magnificent there's something to it 678 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:23,200 there's something to it Mike this is so 679 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:25,270 strange my sister-in-law and this has to 680 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:28,690 do with Robert Kennedy anyway 681 00:33:35,299 --> 00:33:32,799 she she and someone else purchased a 682 00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:35,309 weapon that was the weapon that was 683 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:37,659 theorized to be used in the 684 00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:40,450 assassination and they have all this but 685 00:33:45,299 --> 00:33:41,950 getting back to so I'm with you on that 686 00:33:47,639 --> 00:33:45,309 path but getting back to the UM you know 687 00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:47,649 starting with area 51 this this Q 688 00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:50,140 clearances this new need-to-know status 689 00:33:53,399 --> 00:33:52,120 which is unheard of in the military at 690 00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:53,409 this point this is a brand new thing 691 00:33:57,510 --> 00:33:55,960 where it's kind of like are you in the 692 00:33:59,490 --> 00:33:57,520 good ol boys club or not 693 00:34:03,570 --> 00:33:59,500 well they just get to pick and choose 694 00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:03,580 who needs to know what that is such a 695 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:06,340 secret destiny of America like I mean it 696 00:34:14,099 --> 00:34:11,290 seems so almost like a secret society or 697 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:14,109 a well you know what I'll tell you you 698 00:34:21,930 --> 00:34:19,240 know in a way I can understand that rule 699 00:34:24,570 --> 00:34:21,940 now what I mean by that is let's say 700 00:34:27,629 --> 00:34:24,580 hypothetically right now within our 701 00:34:29,460 --> 00:34:27,639 military I don't think we have it but we 702 00:34:32,359 --> 00:34:29,470 may let's say if we actually have 703 00:34:35,399 --> 00:34:32,369 technology to where we can teleport 704 00:34:37,169 --> 00:34:35,409 that's something so sensitive that you 705 00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:37,179 don't need to tell everyone because how 706 00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:39,399 do you know somebody or not sell the 707 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:43,240 information to another country or what 708 00:34:48,889 --> 00:34:45,970 not so I think I can understand them 709 00:34:52,859 --> 00:34:48,899 taking that equipped I really really do 710 00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:52,869 and some things or need to know and they 711 00:35:00,359 --> 00:34:55,030 should be for national security I do 712 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:00,369 agree with that but at the same time yes 713 00:35:08,099 --> 00:35:04,630 and I'm using this as an example if we 714 00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:08,109 have the cure for cancer it should not 715 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:12,190 be held back it should be used but at 716 00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:14,410 the same time if we did there's a lot of 717 00:35:17,970 --> 00:35:15,910 people that would go out be out at work 718 00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:17,980 and so what does the country want to 719 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:20,260 deal with I think they have those type 720 00:35:24,510 --> 00:35:22,690 of issues to deal with it you and I 721 00:35:25,770 --> 00:35:24,520 don't say no I'm not taking up for 722 00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:25,780 anything I understand 723 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:31,020 objective but that is taught that's what 724 00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:34,150 town things are so different now ever 725 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:36,820 since Roswell things have changed people 726 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:39,730 don't want to admit it they don't want 727 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:41,890 to look at it but so many things in this 728 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,450 country has changed since the Roswell 729 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:45,760 crash but we didn't start collecting 730 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:48,220 technology in 47 we actually started in 731 00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:51,730 1941 that I'm aware with the cape 732 00:36:00,930 --> 00:35:55,920 girardeau crash and then we had one in 733 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:00,940 1945 in San Antonio in Mexico 1947 was 734 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:03,970 Roswell and Aztec was 48 now those are 735 00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:06,730 four crashes that in order but that's 736 00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:08,500 been that's been talked about okay so 737 00:36:13,650 --> 00:36:10,660 that's four and then of course we had 738 00:36:15,450 --> 00:36:13,660 the Battle of LA and many people have 739 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:15,460 said that they shot at the thing and 740 00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:18,850 they didn't bring it down so they heard 741 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:21,190 they shot at the thing and it did come 742 00:36:26,490 --> 00:36:23,560 down and the Navy recovered it don't 743 00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:26,500 really know so we started collecting 744 00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:28,840 product you know from them and since 745 00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:34,630 1941 in my opinion but if they're here 746 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:36,790 and they connect and I believe it it's 747 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:38,890 possible there's no telling what kind of 748 00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:40,510 awesome technologies with Jack now 749 00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:43,900 whenever six mm-hmm I mean I was 750 00:36:49,170 --> 00:36:46,240 watching a documentary that was on 751 00:36:50,430 --> 00:36:49,180 YouTube and it was mention a person 752 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:50,440 website is that okay 753 00:36:58,980 --> 00:36:53,050 I don't want okay the name of the 754 00:37:00,810 --> 00:36:58,990 website is UFO tv.com and I was watching 755 00:37:03,570 --> 00:37:00,820 one of their documentaries that they had 756 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:03,580 on the YouTube page and there was a 757 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:05,410 gentleman on there and I think member 758 00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,370 man's name but he said that he had spoke 759 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:11,200 with someone with within the military 760 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:14,320 and the person was in the military told 761 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:15,910 the shin and I wish I could remember the 762 00:37:20,430 --> 00:37:18,430 guys name he said we've got friends out 763 00:37:22,770 --> 00:37:20,440 there in the desert that make George 764 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:22,780 Lucas's mouth and Steven Spielberg no 765 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:26,770 water no that's either easy but true or 766 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:27,250 false 767 00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:29,410 of course I don't know but to say that 768 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:31,180 it's true it's not an unbelievable 769 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:34,170 statement MIT 770 00:37:40,070 --> 00:37:37,870 no yeah and I think I think that's kind 771 00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:40,080 of like what we're finding is 772 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,550 you know that for those that believe 773 00:37:48,810 --> 00:37:44,560 like going back to what you said about 774 00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:48,820 gary mckinnon that these entities exist 775 00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:50,380 not only exist but have been here for 776 00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:53,230 quite some time well that you know you 777 00:38:00,450 --> 00:37:57,070 run into that the higher you go up this 778 00:38:03,780 --> 00:38:00,460 declassified and disclosure territory 779 00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:03,790 you find that there's a lot of things 780 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:09,880 like the you know the secret space 781 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:12,640 programs and you know lucky I think you 782 00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:14,110 mentioned earlier the non-terrestrial 783 00:38:20,130 --> 00:38:18,100 officers things that people don't you 784 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:20,140 know the average individual that's 785 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:21,790 manipulated by the mass media isn't 786 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,160 gonna know what that means and no I 787 00:38:29,130 --> 00:38:26,800 think that there is a fold however like 788 00:38:31,830 --> 00:38:29,140 there's a fold of some sort where this 789 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:31,840 need-to-know gathers people pulls them 790 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:34,330 back into this fold and from what I 791 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:37,090 understand like there's you know 792 00:38:40,620 --> 00:38:39,160 everything from there's different levels 793 00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:40,630 like you said there's the old 794 00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:43,420 back-engineered Roswell stuff that we 795 00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:45,400 can fly and then there's new levels and 796 00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:49,360 new generations and and and this ties 797 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:52,780 into you know the back then it was the 798 00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:56,110 OSS and NASA and then that brings in you 799 00:39:01,230 --> 00:38:58,810 know project horizon solar warden is the 800 00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:01,240 possibility of like what von Braun said 801 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:05,680 about a a project that's gonna be called 802 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:07,690 Blue Beam is that a possibility I mean 803 00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:10,210 there's so much go but yeah Blue Beam is 804 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:13,030 the hologram technology you know project 805 00:39:19,470 --> 00:39:16,510 horizon as I said early interview I said 806 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:19,480 that I believe project horizon became a 807 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:22,210 reality because we were invited to the 808 00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:24,730 moon now let's think about something 809 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:26,980 logically let's say if they helped us 810 00:39:30,990 --> 00:39:28,930 build a military installation anuman 811 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:31,000 okay let's pretend for a minute say boom 812 00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:32,770 they help this we're going to need 813 00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:34,750 people to work there 814 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:38,830 and do whatever is our plans work to Des 815 00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:41,110 Moines to me which means we're going to 816 00:39:46,170 --> 00:39:43,630 have people working on the moon which 817 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:46,180 means they are called non-terrestrial 818 00:39:51,330 --> 00:39:49,510 officers okay yeah isn't that exactly 819 00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:51,340 what Jerry McKenna said he found 820 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:53,540 overthrow but that tells me 821 00:40:02,109 --> 00:39:56,570 The Horizon had to have become a reality 822 00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:02,119 and some form or fashion because if 823 00:40:05,890 --> 00:40:03,619 you're going to say that the 824 00:40:07,870 --> 00:40:05,900 non-terrestrial officers are not human 825 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:07,880 then you're talking about something 826 00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:10,000 totally different here 827 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:12,710 you know non-terrestrial officers to me 828 00:40:18,070 --> 00:40:14,750 it's military personnel not working on 829 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:18,080 my planet in the closest place that's 830 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:19,850 all it means to me too and I think 831 00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:21,770 that's where you act the psychology of 832 00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:23,390 UFOs you're talking about is so 833 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:26,000 important because well you know people 834 00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:28,570 here alien and they think 835 00:40:33,310 --> 00:40:30,740 extraterrestrial and all that really 836 00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:33,320 means is that they're not on this tariff 837 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:35,109 or they're not on this earth right now 838 00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:38,330 well at this particular time you know or 839 00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:40,430 for the most part and that means there 840 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:43,040 are somewhere else now that well you 841 00:40:48,609 --> 00:40:45,710 know and and I think you know people 842 00:40:51,250 --> 00:40:48,619 take that fill in all the gaps and end 843 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:51,260 up with a reality that just isn't 844 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:53,810 reality whether that is you know that 845 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:55,010 they're all Care Bears and space 846 00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:57,290 brothers or that they're all demons so 847 00:41:05,250 --> 00:40:58,640 there's something probably in between 848 00:41:08,050 --> 00:41:05,260 that's you know also true about you know 849 00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:08,060 the turns UFOs and the Canadians and 850 00:41:15,790 --> 00:41:13,580 I'll tell anybody this that my personal 851 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:15,800 belief my personal religious belief is 852 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:19,369 this that God just like the Bible says 853 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:22,070 created the heavens and the earth and if 854 00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:25,010 God made a decision to put life on this 855 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:28,340 planet I don't see why he would not put 856 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:32,000 my other places now saying that it has 857 00:41:37,450 --> 00:41:33,890 been said that aliens had something to 858 00:41:39,790 --> 00:41:37,460 do with our genetic makeup after God 859 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:39,800 created life that's possible actor 860 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:42,050 hasn't sure I'm not saying that's not us 861 00:41:49,810 --> 00:41:45,680 but if God created our planet and put 862 00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:49,820 life on of any sort then what did God do 863 00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:52,640 with Mercury Venus Saturn and all the 864 00:41:56,050 --> 00:41:54,260 other planets at least the ones we 865 00:41:58,690 --> 00:41:56,060 learned about in school mm-hmm 866 00:42:00,220 --> 00:41:58,700 they're there for a reason so to say 867 00:42:02,170 --> 00:42:00,230 that life isn't out there is this 868 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,180 pigment that's running out and 869 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:04,400 understorm naked as a jaybird on the 870 00:42:11,290 --> 00:42:07,610 like the rock I mean that's 871 00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:11,300 that we may consolation ever seeing that 872 00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:13,670 life don't mean it's not there 873 00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:17,720 right and when and when a person sees a 874 00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:21,590 UFO or hear somebody say that don't just 875 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:24,520 to the alien conclusion these days 876 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:27,410 because there's too many things it could 877 00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:30,170 be and the one main thing is black 878 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:34,240 project technology owned by our military 879 00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:37,490 no there is an open discussion about how 880 00:42:45,550 --> 00:42:42,710 we developed it sure but don't assume 881 00:42:47,980 --> 00:42:45,560 it's the little gray guys flying I mean 882 00:42:55,870 --> 00:42:47,990 come on this is a different world we're 883 00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:55,880 living in versus 1947 and the Bob Lazar 884 00:43:02,230 --> 00:42:58,160 thing I want to go back to that just a 885 00:43:06,910 --> 00:43:02,240 second well one reason that I swear Bob 886 00:43:08,740 --> 00:43:06,920 Lazar seems to be credible 887 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:08,750 I believe he's credible because I've 888 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:12,170 been trying to figure out okay why would 889 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,010 Bob Lazar oh yeah about something like 890 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:18,560 that because one thing that hasn't been 891 00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:22,930 done okay what I call a national level 892 00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:25,760 there was that documentary that came out 893 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:28,430 about him that mr. Jeremy Corbyn is that 894 00:43:34,690 --> 00:43:30,890 this kind of - gentleman yes who was the 895 00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,700 producer of you been um good guy then 896 00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:37,280 okay that documentary was done and Bob 897 00:43:41,470 --> 00:43:39,680 has been on other documentaries but he 898 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:41,480 hasn't no one yeah it's not like 899 00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:43,730 somebody has made the movie the bob 900 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:46,310 lazar sword okay 901 00:43:50,830 --> 00:43:48,890 nothing has really happened that has 902 00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:50,840 catapulted him into like a celebrity 903 00:43:57,310 --> 00:43:53,540 status but he's considered that a much 904 00:44:00,220 --> 00:43:57,320 technology um that's why I just did that 905 00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:00,230 feeling is he stoned her and in truth is 906 00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:03,830 stranger than fiction and the reason 907 00:44:07,330 --> 00:44:05,630 nobody wants to believe you this because 908 00:44:10,510 --> 00:44:07,340 their head is stuck in Hollywood 909 00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:10,520 meaning the movies they have not 910 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:13,460 realized that okay this could really be 911 00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:16,370 going on but what's so amazing is when 912 00:44:21,250 --> 00:44:18,500 somebody says the word UFO people think 913 00:44:22,570 --> 00:44:21,260 alien so this it's like 914 00:44:27,580 --> 00:44:22,580 do you believe in or do you not believe 915 00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:27,590 in it right now but I'll even admit this 916 00:44:34,510 --> 00:44:29,720 Bob Lazar store is very complex 917 00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:34,520 sure it is and ultimately when a person 918 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:36,910 in his situation said hey I saw this 919 00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:39,530 there's no way he could take us out and 920 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:42,550 show us there so asking for the evidence 921 00:44:47,710 --> 00:44:45,650 is not going to happen because he can't 922 00:44:53,070 --> 00:44:47,720 get to it y'all don't think you have 923 00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:53,080 this is work that's true man it's sad 924 00:44:59,170 --> 00:44:57,200 and it's it's kind of like pushing a gas 925 00:45:02,590 --> 00:44:59,180 pedal and a brake pedal at the same time 926 00:45:05,410 --> 00:45:02,600 all right you just got to go in the 927 00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:05,420 man's work and make up your mind 928 00:45:10,770 --> 00:45:07,550 what you think is real and everyday life 929 00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:10,780 and I believe I really do there's some 930 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:13,420 unquestionable coincidences that seem 931 00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:16,010 synchronistic how they could have 932 00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:18,800 slipped through the cracks like you know 933 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:20,630 back when he worked at los alamos first 934 00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:22,550 they denied he worked there and then you 935 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:25,430 know his pictures yeah the thing is that 936 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,010 um when he came forward and said what he 937 00:45:33,730 --> 00:45:31,280 said um a lot of his records started to 938 00:45:36,130 --> 00:45:33,740 disappear like his credibility's of as 939 00:45:38,830 --> 00:45:36,140 you say worked at los alamos and all of 940 00:45:40,030 --> 00:45:38,840 this stuff the the evidence of him even 941 00:45:45,130 --> 00:45:40,040 being in this place is kind of 942 00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:45,140 disappeared no last night I was watching 943 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:48,230 Louie elizondo's show unidentified and 944 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:51,170 they and something was said about John 945 00:45:57,550 --> 00:45:54,050 burrows that I did not know and I think 946 00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:57,560 in that day near oh so out the children 947 00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:00,560 I was watching this is that when John 948 00:46:05,230 --> 00:46:04,160 burrows applied for his military own 949 00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:05,240 benefits 950 00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:08,000 I think his what he said they said that 951 00:46:13,330 --> 00:46:11,060 and hit the military record said they 952 00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:13,340 John burrows was not even in the Air 953 00:46:19,180 --> 00:46:15,710 Force when the Rendlesham forest 954 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:19,190 incident happened no I believe he was 955 00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:22,850 there okay I'm not saying that I believe 956 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:24,830 he was there because who knows haunts 957 00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:26,930 recording that's been played on numerous 958 00:46:32,830 --> 00:46:28,910 documentaries you can hear his name 959 00:46:34,220 --> 00:46:32,840 mentioned so he was obviously there what 960 00:46:38,359 --> 00:46:34,230 they're doing is 961 00:46:41,810 --> 00:46:38,369 time to erase John Burroughs from even 962 00:46:44,050 --> 00:46:41,820 being in the situation of the Air Force 963 00:46:46,580 --> 00:46:44,060 when these Rendlesham forest incident 964 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:46,590 happened we're trying to discredit 965 00:46:53,380 --> 00:46:49,920 everything the man is I'm like what is 966 00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:53,390 it exactly what happened above the law 967 00:47:00,859 --> 00:46:56,400 absolutely it's very easy to discredit a 968 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:00,869 or or just hack an attempt a virus or 969 00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,450 you know that III think that this I've 970 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:04,800 heard instances of this child 971 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:06,810 pornography being put on people's okay 972 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:10,609 you know computers that are giving the 973 00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:12,930 powers that are in control of some of 974 00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:15,300 these special projects a hard time but 975 00:47:21,830 --> 00:47:18,560 this is all I mean forget all that I 976 00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:21,840 there's just like you said there should 977 00:47:29,390 --> 00:47:27,359 be more of a disclosure of what's 978 00:47:32,810 --> 00:47:29,400 important you know maybe you know things 979 00:47:35,570 --> 00:47:32,820 of national security but but I have that 980 00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:35,580 I completely understand but there there 981 00:47:39,980 --> 00:47:38,460 should be more disclosures of things 982 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:39,990 that could actually benefit society in a 983 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:44,250 way to ease out the things that are not 984 00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:47,130 and I totally agree you can't have oil 985 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:49,710 here today and gone tomorrow because all 986 00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:53,010 the seniors pensions will be zero and 987 00:47:59,210 --> 00:47:55,500 you know things of that nature you know 988 00:48:01,099 --> 00:47:59,220 you just can't do huge shifts so it's 989 00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,109 really a balancing act at this point not 990 00:48:07,070 --> 00:48:04,160 only like through this need to know and 991 00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:07,080 secret projects that are protecting 992 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:09,660 people but there's also the trying to be 993 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:12,770 harmonious with the political agenda and 994 00:48:21,830 --> 00:48:15,690 people's views of the subject and the 995 00:48:24,020 --> 00:48:21,840 psychology of UFOs like you said I have 996 00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:24,030 accepted the fact that the United States 997 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:25,619 government is never gonna admit they 998 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:27,930 lied about Roswell by trying to cover it 999 00:48:31,580 --> 00:48:30,090 up and say that one thing about the 1000 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:31,590 Roswell crash and I want to take someone 1001 00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:36,570 else to say yes on the evening of July 1002 00:48:41,810 --> 00:48:39,720 the 4th it was a thunderstorm going 1003 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:41,820 through Roswell in the southwestern you 1004 00:48:47,310 --> 00:48:44,490 know United States and the evening of 1005 00:48:49,110 --> 00:48:47,320 July the 4th when that brass 1006 00:48:52,890 --> 00:48:49,120 claims to have allegedly heard an 1007 00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:52,900 explosion outside of his house and he 1008 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:55,150 couldn't see any evidence of any damage 1009 00:48:59,640 --> 00:48:57,130 10 thing the next morning when he went 1010 00:49:01,470 --> 00:48:59,650 out looking to check on his cattle he 1011 00:49:03,210 --> 00:49:01,480 sees all this debris now let's think 1012 00:49:06,030 --> 00:49:03,220 about something for a minute if an 1013 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:06,040 airplane is flying and it crashes it 1014 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:09,220 catches on fire doesn't it mm-hmm okay 1015 00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:12,970 well the debris that was out on his 1016 00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:15,790 property the big metal debris that he 1017 00:49:22,590 --> 00:49:19,440 said was there didn't catch on fire 1018 00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,600 right nobody's ever talked about that 1019 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:24,640 there's there was no fire on his land 1020 00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:27,760 from something crashing now I'm 1021 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:30,400 sterilizing that okay if it would have 1022 00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:33,850 been something we were testing in 1947 I 1023 00:49:38,730 --> 00:49:36,190 don't believe that we would have any 1024 00:49:41,460 --> 00:49:38,740 type of metal that we could use to build 1025 00:49:42,450 --> 00:49:41,470 anything that would not take fire if 1026 00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:42,460 they crashed 1027 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:46,200 so here's nothing I that's another 1028 00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:50,650 indirect piece of evidence that said 1029 00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:53,440 okay whatever crashed out there was not 1030 00:49:58,140 --> 00:49:56,110 conventional no more and we wouldn't be 1031 00:50:00,810 --> 00:49:58,150 testing anything and they thunderstorm 1032 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:00,820 like that if it's something that we are 1033 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:02,770 building and developing we're going to 1034 00:50:07,980 --> 00:50:04,570 do it on a clear day yeah nothing we 1035 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:07,990 value yeah hey there you go if we're 1036 00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:10,090 gonna be testing something we're gonna 1037 00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:15,640 be following it on radar if that's that 1038 00:50:20,490 --> 00:50:17,830 debris was out there for days until the 1039 00:50:23,790 --> 00:50:20,500 army came together so nobody was looking 1040 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:23,800 for anything yeah there's a lot of 1041 00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:26,770 interesting aspects to Roswell there's 1042 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:29,860 you know the different debris fields the 1043 00:50:36,660 --> 00:50:33,250 oh yeah there was two crash site mm-hmm 1044 00:50:39,810 --> 00:50:36,670 you know the Fausto ant and then there 1045 00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:39,820 was Corona there was two crash site so 1046 00:50:45,780 --> 00:50:42,160 folks don't know that this been missing 1047 00:50:47,790 --> 00:50:45,790 before but not that much and if you 1048 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:47,800 compare the Roswell incident the fact 1049 00:50:52,110 --> 00:50:50,410 that it was out there like four days and 1050 00:50:55,710 --> 00:50:52,120 nobody had clicked anything into July 1051 00:50:59,100 --> 00:50:55,720 the 8th Kecksburg as soon as that expert 1052 00:51:00,849 --> 00:50:59,110 UFO crashed in the hills the military 1053 00:51:02,949 --> 00:51:00,859 showed that like with an 1054 00:51:04,660 --> 00:51:02,959 so they were talking what what was it 1055 00:51:08,259 --> 00:51:04,670 well that was what over there why I was 1056 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:08,269 probably ours didn't it didn't ya 1057 00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:10,249 there's AI there's so much to the 1058 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:12,049 Kecksburg that is an interesting 1059 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:15,650 scenario well as far as Roswell you're 1060 00:51:21,609 --> 00:51:17,450 absolutely right about the crash diets I 1061 00:51:23,410 --> 00:51:21,619 got when we were out there I got a for 1062 00:51:27,969 --> 00:51:23,420 whatever reason it's like a belt buckle 1063 00:51:30,219 --> 00:51:27,979 an old 1940s belt like - a leather belt 1064 00:51:33,219 --> 00:51:30,229 and you know there's still people that 1065 00:51:36,479 --> 00:51:33,229 deny that this second crash sites even a 1066 00:51:39,940 --> 00:51:36,489 crash site but there's some manipulation 1067 00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:39,950 for sure as far as what the general 1068 00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:42,109 populace is told and what they accept 1069 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,209 now I think the general populace most 1070 00:51:49,420 --> 00:51:46,880 likely doesn't believe what the 1071 00:51:51,789 --> 00:51:49,430 government was telling them for Roswell 1072 00:51:52,420 --> 00:51:51,799 but it's so far removed at this point it 1073 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:52,430 doesn't matter 1074 00:52:03,579 --> 00:51:56,089 mm-hm yeah it's so long ago click to to 1075 00:52:05,439 --> 00:52:03,589 say that people were threatened it's 1076 00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:05,449 just like it's another time in theory I 1077 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:08,150 guess you could say it it okay we know 1078 00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:10,249 it happened we've advanced helmet you 1079 00:52:21,939 --> 00:52:18,529 know that happen oh it's just uh I guess 1080 00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:21,949 like I've heard said before in the 1946 1081 00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:23,630 baby is that the government told you to 1082 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:25,910 shut up today because she believes in 1083 00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:28,729 the government but where things changed 1084 00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:32,329 was the Kennedy assassination and it 1085 00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:35,390 wasn't necessarily in 1964 when the 1086 00:52:43,949 --> 00:52:38,390 Warren Commission came out but when Jim 1087 00:52:46,539 --> 00:52:43,959 Garrison brought clay shoulder clown and 1088 00:52:49,959 --> 00:52:46,549 brought up his evidence oh there was a 1089 00:52:55,329 --> 00:52:49,969 conspiracy in Dallas he showed the world 1090 00:52:58,689 --> 00:52:55,339 that they were lied to in 1964 and that 1091 00:53:01,269 --> 00:52:58,699 I believe is when people started 1092 00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,279 questioning things they were here it was 1093 00:53:06,249 --> 00:53:03,920 because of Jim Garrison going back into 1094 00:53:12,090 --> 00:53:06,259 the case I mean he was basically the 1095 00:53:16,410 --> 00:53:14,309 [Music] 1096 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:16,420 everybody sit in that courtroom and 1097 00:53:18,329 --> 00:53:17,890 throughout the United States and of the 1098 00:53:20,099 --> 00:53:18,339 world 1099 00:53:22,339 --> 00:53:20,109 that just because the government says it 1100 00:53:25,049 --> 00:53:22,349 doesn't mean it's true 1101 00:53:27,959 --> 00:53:25,059 now they could have covert reasons for 1102 00:53:29,489 --> 00:53:27,969 line or whatever but you have to be 1103 00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:29,499 careful what you believe and that's like 1104 00:53:33,569 --> 00:53:30,910 new what you followed yelling boy grip 1105 00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:33,579 right here no I mean I research it read 1106 00:53:38,009 --> 00:53:35,529 about it and get opinions from people to 1107 00:53:41,479 --> 00:53:38,019 see what they thought and then at some 1108 00:53:43,380 --> 00:53:41,489 point I've gotten to make a decision so 1109 00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:43,390 yeah they're like they said you know 1110 00:53:47,729 --> 00:53:45,160 everybody everybody said all these 1111 00:53:48,839 --> 00:53:47,739 things about Jim Garrison like not Jim 1112 00:53:51,569 --> 00:53:48,849 Garrison excuse me 1113 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:51,579 Alex Jones and all the crazy things it 1114 00:53:55,979 --> 00:53:54,130 says the one thing that needs to be done 1115 00:53:59,130 --> 00:53:55,989 that will never get done is did that man 1116 00:54:01,890 --> 00:53:59,140 a two-hour block on ABC on a Monday 1117 00:54:04,229 --> 00:54:01,900 night and let him lay some evidence out 1118 00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:04,239 about some things that he said and let 1119 00:54:09,150 --> 00:54:06,190 people make up their own mind but there 1120 00:54:10,979 --> 00:54:09,160 again so he had so much bad press god 1121 00:54:14,279 --> 00:54:10,989 bless and me nobody's gonna want to 1122 00:54:16,019 --> 00:54:14,289 listen and that doesn't know it says I 1123 00:54:20,579 --> 00:54:16,029 think it speaks volumes the fact that 1124 00:54:24,479 --> 00:54:20,589 he's been denied access to so many 1125 00:54:28,189 --> 00:54:24,489 different types of media like YouTube 1126 00:54:31,319 --> 00:54:28,199 yeah Twitter and I mean literally 1127 00:54:35,849 --> 00:54:31,329 considering him hate speech is I just 1128 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:35,859 find that such a stretch and recently I 1129 00:54:43,769 --> 00:54:39,609 guess with this one of the cases that 1130 00:54:46,049 --> 00:54:43,779 he's involved in his lawyers supposedly 1131 00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:46,059 sent some child pornography to the 1132 00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:48,880 parents of Sandy Hook and according to 1133 00:54:53,459 --> 00:54:51,369 the lawyers of the parents of Sandy Hook 1134 00:54:55,979 --> 00:54:53,469 this was should be another charge 1135 00:54:58,769 --> 00:54:55,989 against Alex Jones and it's like are you 1136 00:55:01,019 --> 00:54:58,779 kidding me there's who in their right 1137 00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:01,029 mind defending themselves in a case 1138 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:03,670 would send something like that it's just 1139 00:55:11,249 --> 00:55:08,410 it it it does seem like there is some 1140 00:55:15,529 --> 00:55:11,259 and for some length of time there has 1141 00:55:18,569 --> 00:55:15,539 been an establishment that is able to 1142 00:55:22,829 --> 00:55:18,579 like you said lean on people or 1143 00:55:24,569 --> 00:55:22,839 institutions and call it chance or 1144 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:24,579 coincidence they usually get their way 1145 00:55:32,190 --> 00:55:28,890 you know so many people 1146 00:55:35,309 --> 00:55:32,200 when Edward Snowden came forward and 1147 00:55:37,859 --> 00:55:35,319 said all the things that he did because 1148 00:55:42,269 --> 00:55:37,869 it did not seem believable believable 1149 00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:42,279 and the average person's mind he was 1150 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:45,390 made fun of you know he says that 1151 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:47,770 smartphones and what-have-you they can 1152 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:51,250 be spied on and what have you 1153 00:55:55,789 --> 00:55:54,490 well he was in a position to know 1154 00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:55,799 something like that 1155 00:55:59,940 --> 00:55:58,240 you know we're in the general public we 1156 00:56:02,190 --> 00:55:59,950 went in there with him so we have to 1157 00:56:05,130 --> 00:56:02,200 make it a sieve then we believe anything 1158 00:56:05,970 --> 00:56:05,140 or whatnot and I will tell you I did 1159 00:56:07,950 --> 00:56:05,980 mm-hmm 1160 00:56:09,539 --> 00:56:07,960 I believe there's technology and it goes 1161 00:56:11,339 --> 00:56:09,549 back to having technologies that the 1162 00:56:15,210 --> 00:56:11,349 government and the military have I don't 1163 00:56:17,069 --> 00:56:15,220 know anything about but there again if 1164 00:56:20,190 --> 00:56:17,079 you're not doing anything wrong you 1165 00:56:23,609 --> 00:56:20,200 ain't got that in the house right that's 1166 00:56:25,799 --> 00:56:23,619 for all of my life you have to you have 1167 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:25,809 to because if you if you don't you 1168 00:56:30,990 --> 00:56:27,490 either end up paranoid on the one hand 1169 00:56:31,260 --> 00:56:31,000 or overly manipulated on you know on the 1170 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:31,270 other 1171 00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:35,730 oh so it's a it's a tough it's a tough 1172 00:56:41,010 --> 00:56:38,950 you're riding the wave well you've been 1173 00:56:44,490 --> 00:56:41,020 I appreciate you taking some time out of 1174 00:56:47,730 --> 00:56:44,500 your day and speaking with us it's been 1175 00:56:50,339 --> 00:56:47,740 a pleasure I think that you've got so 1176 00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:50,349 many complete views of like the 1177 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:52,329 structure of what's otherwise not spoken 1178 00:56:56,849 --> 00:56:54,730 about which is a psychology of UFOs and 1179 00:56:59,519 --> 00:56:56,859 you know you have a very interesting 1180 00:57:06,870 --> 00:56:59,529 background and you're not definitely not 1181 00:57:09,870 --> 00:57:06,880 one of the sheeple what do you have 1182 00:57:11,730 --> 00:57:09,880 coming up what's new where can people 1183 00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:11,740 follow you on social media things of 1184 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:12,809 that nature 1185 00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:15,910 well like I said don't the only way 1186 00:57:23,490 --> 00:57:19,270 people can get me is on my Facebook page 1187 00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:23,500 and I'll get you those on links all I 1188 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:25,630 got to do is just look at Donnybrook do 1189 00:57:34,140 --> 00:57:30,910 and and ie Brooke B or o ke - 1190 00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:34,150 pro-wrestler UFO hunter and you'll find 1191 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:37,420 me and like I said I'll get you my 1192 00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:39,250 contact and so you can post it or 1193 00:57:44,849 --> 00:57:41,950 whatnot and my email 1194 00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:44,859 Donnybrook at medCom anybody has a 1195 00:57:49,380 --> 00:57:47,200 question about anything we talk about or 1196 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:49,390 if they say something and stand they 1197 00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:50,890 want to send me their pictures in story 1198 00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:53,920 everything is confident oh that's great 1199 00:57:59,420 --> 00:57:56,200 Donny thank you so much and I hope you 1200 00:58:05,849 --> 00:57:59,430 enjoy your weekend all the best to you 1201 00:58:09,950 --> 00:58:05,859 take care o Donnybrook ladies and 1202 00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:09,960 gentlemen pro wrestler UFO hunter and 1203 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:13,270 absolutely a pleasure to speak with his 1204 00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:15,970 knowledge of disclosure on solar warden 1205 00:58:23,819 --> 00:58:19,180 the tr6 the tr-3b knowing about the 1206 00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:23,829 Kennedy assassination I mean gosh even 1207 00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:26,260 that pathway of like Jim Garrison the 1208 00:58:31,859 --> 00:58:28,660 CIA I wanted to get into more of that 1209 00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:31,869 and connections maybe with Bush maybe 1210 00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,609 Brown Brothers Harriman will try to get 1211 00:58:41,550 --> 00:58:35,440 him back because he's got such a great 1212 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:41,560 knowledge of so much and you know he he 1213 00:58:47,430 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